Yep, the major ISPs ran out of IPv4 space ages ago. I note that I can no longer get an v4 IP when using any mobile service that has Telstra underneath it. And of course that’s a world of entertainment for systems that I need to connect to that have IP v4 allow lists.

I’m sure they’re mopping up all the class Cs as they can. I’ll bet they did the class B and class A ones ages ago.

In the end, whoever owns the routing at the upper levels gets to call the shots.

Regards,

Greg

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From: David Connors via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2023 1:29 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Cc: David Connors <david@connors.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] APNIC charges for historical resources

Greg,

Historical objects were always free but they made you bring them into a paid basis whenever you needed additional IP space or a new AS number or something. That happened to us years ago. Once you're on that train you can't get off.

They must be rounding up the stragglers like you. :) 

David.

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 07:41, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

Folks, It's almost Friday...

I just received an email from APNIC to tell me that a class C IP block I've owned for 27 years is now under their control and I will be charged $500/year to keep this historical resource that was created before APNIC existed. See Maintenance Fee Change. Has anyone else received a similar notification?

My thoughts were: this is either kidnapping, extortion or a "protection racket", or all three.

I'm reminded of the 1990s when Melbourne IT were effectively selling the dictionary for a minimum ~$135 per domain name, and special words like "realestate" or "sales" etc were up for the highest bidder at eye-watering prices. Ah, the days of the Internet boom...!

I'd like to write an official complaint about APNIC's money-grubbing scam to someone, but who? The ACCC is a toothless tiger. There is a federal ombudsman, but would APNIC be on their radar?

Cheers,

Greg K

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