I’m not a subscriber to read the entire article but 30% is a load of BS at this stage On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 15:18, Tom Gao via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
Here's the article.
https://www.afr.com/technology/commbank-claims-ai-is-already-making-it-work-...
So what does everyone think about the claim that 30% efficiency? ie to me as head of IT instead of hiring 10 developers to build applications now only 7 is required. To me that just doesn't seem realistic.
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:04 PM Tom Rutter via ozdotnet < ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 12:32, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet < ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
Worse, in the baseball umpiring exam I mentioned, someone said to me “isn’t that what you’d get if you just asked a whole lot of fans about the rules rather than asking umpires?”
There’s probably something important about that. How does it know which of the material it was trained on is valid?
Yep that’s the thing, it doesn’t actually know what is “valid”. From what I understand it just gets “pushed” in certain directions during training and not in all cases obviously.
My experience with things like ChatGPT so far basically brings it down to a better Google really. Early days
Regards,
Greg
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"old system views"
That makes me wonder if it has any way of differentiating between something it found from a decade ago to more recent data.
Mike
On Fri, 23 Feb 2024, 11:43 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, < ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
For me, it depends what you want it to do. It certainly can appear to help someone who’s new to an area.
For most code writing, I’ve been pretty underwhelmed. As an example, if I ask it to write SQL, I get a very poor outcome. It will use old deprecated views instead of the current system views (that have been around for a decade), and often does things in a convoluted way.
What I have been impressed with, is how it can help you understand acronyms, etc. Quite amazing. I’ve also been pretty impressed with using it go generate some test data, including in multiple languages. And the test data is fairly believable. If I ask it for family names, and I also ask for Chinese, it does pick common Chinese family names in the test output. That’s pretty impressive.
It can do a reasonable job of things like “here’s some DAX code, can you simplify it?” It often can. Or “here’s a regular expression, can you explain what it does?” and it does that just fine. I’ve seen people happily using it to explain code that they don’t understand, or to (sort of) document some code.
But it also is so confident on things, yet so wrong. I gave it a 25 question baseball umpire test the other day. It was 100% confident sounding, but 40% correct. The weird thing is that some of the questions that it got right, are things that new human umpires often get wrong. Yet for simpler questions, it would say that something legal is illegal.
It’s certainly interesting, but it’s very much a work in progress. It will be part of our futures.
Regards,
Greg
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*From:* Tom Gao via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 11:58 AM *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> *Cc:* Tom Gao <tom@tomgao.com> *Subject:* AI
Hi guys, I haven't posted in a few years and haven't been on the tools for a long time now as well. I'm on a panel on a digital conference coming up in march. We had a pre meeting today and the topic of AI came up. Two of the panelist said cited CBA and Westpac using AI and were able to save 30% on development effort.
Personally I just finished an AI course my view is quite the opposite. My personal opinion of the generative AI space and AI in general having spent time with the academics is that the benefits are significantly over inflated.
I want to get some other opinions if you are seeing any significant benefit and that I may be just out of touch or not aware.
Thanks,
Tom
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